In the box-seat


What's the meaning of the phrase 'In the box-seat'?

In a superior or advantageous position.

What's the origin of the phrase 'In the box-seat'?

This phrase doesn’t relate to boxes at the theatre, or even to seats made of boxwood. The box-seat was literally a box which was used as a seat for the driver on coaches. This was set at quite a height in order for the coachman to be able to see beyond the one or two pairs of horses that drew the coach. It isn’t difficult to imagine how ‘in the box-seat’ took on its figurative ‘advantageous’ meaning. This English phrase has the same meaning as the American ‘in the catbird seat‘, but although the US version was coined later there’s no reason to suspect that it was derived from the earlier phrase.

The first reference I can find to box-seats is in an advertisement from The Times, June 1804:

“To be Sold, A LANDAU, little the worse for wear, with a barouche box seat.”

‘Barouche’ is the name of a carriage with such a seat – “A four-wheeled carriage having a seat in front for the driver, and seats inside for two couples to sit facing each other”. (see also Vis-à-vis)

The use of ‘in the box-seat’ to describe someone in a favourable situation began in the mid 19th century.

Gary Martin is a writer and researcher on the origins of phrases and the creator of the Phrase Finder website. Over the past 26 years more than 700 million of his pages have been downloaded by readers. He is one of the most popular and trusted sources of information on phrases and idioms.

Gary Martin

Writer and researcher on the origins of phrases and the creator of the Phrase Finder website. Over the past 26 years more than 700 million of his pages have been downloaded by readers. He is one of the most popular and trusted sources of information on phrases and idioms.
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